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Q:
WHAT IS THE HUSHBOX? |
A: according
to some, it ās a quite popular e-mail list of Atlanta people
& events. i say, it's an ever growing www. based version of
my email dispatch list that started a few years ago. it ās
important to note, that THE HUSHBOX has evolved to my
online interpretation of what folks talk about in regular print
media but with our own tragically hip spin, as well as covering
topics that both u and i discuss in the privacy of our homes
and with friends...the latter of which is the most fun to talk
about. |
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Q: HOW
DID YOU BUILD YOUR LIST OF PEOPLE AND WHERE DID THEY COME FROM? |
A:
it's worth noting that this has evolved out of a grass roots
e-mail dispatch. most of the early on hushboxers were folks that
i knew personally and professionally...from there, it
grew...friends would forward the weekly mailings to others and
people would ask to be put on the list. other times, fellow
friends who had huge list of folks who they thought would dig
the vibe of the box were requested to be put on...other times,
when entertainment list were exposed, iād cut and paste them
into mines and then follow up to the folks who didn't have a
choice in deciding initially if they wanted to be on, with a
disclaimer... a few choose not to be down for whatever reasons,
but the ones who have stayed, have been movers and shakers in
the entertainment industry, folks like you and a bus load of
artist, who have be friended me...i can't believe some of
the folks that we reach thru this lil olā thang affectionately
known as "The
Hushbox." |
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THE
HUSHBOX
The Hushbox Has Some Tough
Questions That We Are Putting Out There!
Many times, there are some serious matters of heart
that folks discuss in private that make their way to the bar. Below are a
few such topics that I have had with a variety of folks here lately,
especially with women. I'm simply putting these questions out there because
that's what we do here at the Hushbox. If you choose to respond, please let
me know whether or not I can post your response.
Please know that the Hushbox does not
encourage or endorse ignorance of any sort and is not attempting to alienate
ANY community. Please reply with thoughtful and insightful responses.
1) Is Black Atlanta doing more to
create a greater divide or separation and segregation amongst Black &
White folks?
I've had more than a few conversations
regarding this topic with other Black folks, and most recently with a middle
aged White couple this past Saturday at a restaurant. What are your
thoughts?
2) What's up with all the in the closet
bisexual men in Atlanta?
I have had more than a few conversations
with women who constantly complain about meeting men that are in the closet
and hide that fact until a more appropriate time when getting to know a
woman. If you're dating a man ladies, you might want to drive by
club 708 and make sure he is not standing in line to get inside on
"Boys Night"
3) Does a wedding ring mean anything
anymore?
With the significant number of single
women in this town, there is this perception, reality for many, that men can
have the pick of the litter, with a significant number of these men being
married. Chime in!
4) What's up with the significant
number of women willing to date or get to know married men on a more than
friendly basis?
Is being alone really so bad that a
significant number of women are willing to date these same married men from
above? Well?
5) Why are there many gay men
that pretend to be straight, marry, have kids then tell their wives 5-10
years later?
That question is courtesy of a Hushbox
Hunnie.
6)
Why
is it that women continue to make the assumption that there is an overall
lack of good men?
This baffles me. As a good man myself, I
struggle to meet good women who can relate to my experience as a well read,
well traveled cat with legitimate sources of income, looks and dresses a bit
different and appreciates LIVING life outside the box, but I'm certainly not
the one out carrying a banner saying there are no good women. Please
elaborate!
7) Why is communication between the
sexes at an all time low?
My suggestion, ladies and fellas, spend
more time talking to the opposite sex and less time talking to the same when
it comes to serious relationship issues.
Your
Replies..
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I think that Atlanta
in general is too segregated for its own good. On the same token
that I don't go to too many underground punk shows b/c I'm not in
the mood to see people get a little too drunk and a little too
carried away, I'm also not into going out to certain clubs on
certain nights b/c a lot of "brothers" get a little too
carried away and a little too disrespectful. Seriously, I can't see
myself going to a place where I have to treat my significant other
like my keys and wallet--close to me at all times. I'm not sure if
sections of Black Atlanta segregate themselves by choice (sometimes,
I wonder about some of the dreads n' incense peeps-- sometimes :p ),
or if they create an environment in which nobody wants to be around
them because they're annoying ("Pseudo-Baller
Night" at Klub [Klub, Klub, Klub] insert cutely misspelled name
here ). And I'm not just pointing the finger at Black Atlanta (Va-Highland
people annoy me, too), but I'm focusing upon Kebo's question. Then
again, I'm still a cat from Oakland, and I guess my exposure to
other people has been different from what people in Georgia have
seen. I've seen people post stuff to the Hushbox about Latinos that
would have them kissing an ice pack in virtually any other major
city. Atlanta is having to diversify faster than it's been ready to;
some people would argue that it's unfortunate that Atlanta is having
to diversify. I think it's more unfortunate that it wasn't ready in
the first place.
Having just moved here
in July, and being white... I cannot say that I have felt any
segregation at all. In fact, I have wonderful friends of all color
and creed. What you stand for is much more important to me. It
doesn't matter what you are on the outside, it is far more important
to me of what is on the inside. The connections I make with others
are a direct representative of my own beliefs. One thing I will
speak about is the dating scene. I have dated a couple of black men.
I have felt some prejudice more in this arena from both men and
women. It is not my intent to take away anything from anyone; nor do
I date solely on race either. When I meet someone I am interested
in, I enjoy getting to know the 'person' he is but then again...
isn't that the point?.
Actually I don't
believe Atlanta is doing things to segregate the whites from the
blacks with the exception of the flag. However I feel black folks
are too busy causing division amongst themselves. It's sad that we
are God's chosen people, yet we build some much hatred and animosity
towards each other until it is ridiculous. As oppose to most blacks
speaking to each other, or even smiling at one another, they prefer
to avoid making eye contact all together. And I ask you, what harm
is it to smile? And that goes for both male and female. I think what
they all fail to realize is that just because a person smiles at
you, doesn't mean they are trying to get with you. I think it's
called simple common courtesy, which a lot of people, especially
black people are lacking these days. And blacks are quickly to
prejudge everyone based on outward appearance, when it could be soo
much easier to get to know the person and see what's in their head
and heart, which is what truly matters the most. The bottom line is
God is the only one who can judge us. Therefore we as a people need
to realize where there is unity there is strength, so we need to
come together versus using the old crab in a bucket affect, trying
to pull the other person down.
Sure, they always
have, southern blacks (not all, by no means) but a larger number
than most people think are segregationist in my opinion. I've always
noticed that black folk in the south really don't care to co-mingle
with white folks. Like they say, their literally -still fighting the
Civil War down here, still talking about the Confederate Battle
Flag. It's weird to tell you the truth. Because you'll go to Chicago
or New York, and you never hear (like in Atlanta) the race of the
criminal so much a lot of little things like that make folks just
want to stick with their own. Not me, but I ain't mad at'em.
As a White woman who
appreciates the company of all cultures and races, I moved to
Atlanta in 2000 thinking I had chosen a progressive community in
which to live. I have been overwhelmed by the amount of hate cast in
my direction anytime I am in public with a Black man. Not from
ignorant Whites, but from Black women who blatantly show their
disgust and attempt to intimidate my companion. What are they afraid
of? I am equally dismayed by the insistence of the majority of Black
promoters to create and market events and social organizations that
are openly separatist, a practice that would not be tolerated from
White promoters. Add to that the constant "White hate"
that spews out of Atlanta's highest rated FM radio station, thinly
disguised as morning humor. Does all this succeed in keeping me in
my place, away from the culture, music and friends of my choice? No.
But it is causing me to consider leaving a good job and a beautiful
home for a community where people are living for the future, not in
the past.
I don't think Black
people are doing a great deal to bridge the racial divide in Atlanta
(I am a Black woman, by the way). Socially, Atlanta is still pretty
segregated. I think that for the most part people are comfortable
doing things that they are used to doing and sticking to
environments that are comfortable for them. Where you find an
ethnically diverse crowd, you find like-minded people; people who
don't limit themselves to doing typically "Black" or
"White" activities and who have been exposed to cultural
diversity in other areas of their lives. That being said, you'll
still probably find more Black people stepping out into areas that
are unfamiliar (perceived as "White" activities) than you
will find White people spending time at predominantly Black events.
I mean, they are the dominant culture so many activities that are
perceived as neutral or normal by them are perceived as
"White" by some Black people.
I don't think that
Black Atlanta per se is doing this but merely trying to provide
Atlantans that are of African descent an opportunity to commune with
opportunity. Opportunity to explore our cultural roots, a diverse
nightlife that they may not be exposed to normally and that there
are other opportunities for career and business advancement than the
normal methodologies. However, I believe there is a divide that
exists within the city with certain events when they appear to draw
more of an African American Audience or patronage.
In part, yes, I DO believe that
Black Atlanta is doing more to create a greater divide. However, I
don't believe it's just Atlanta and I don't think it's just related
to the dating scene. I liken my viewpoint to Jewish folks who act
"as if" Hitler directly 'bombarded' them and think that
everyone is anti-Semitic Southerners who are still fighting the
Civil War who can't stand the Northerners that have moved to Atlanta
and created a whole new and prosperous Atlanta...What I mean is,
there are those Blacks who are still living in the slavery era and
believe that the world - specifically Whites - owes them something
for the bombastic behavior they were forced to deal with. It's the
Blacks that maintain that "attitude" that are doing more
to create segregation. It's those Blacks that I, as a White person,
would prefer to have nothing to do with and it's those Blacks that
are creating the expansed segregation under the guise of wanting
there to be no barriers with respect to race. And, to add fuel to
the fire - the whole EEOC thing perpetuates this attitude as well...
how 'bout if we all just get hired to a job because of the
contribution that we can bring to the business instead of being
hired because we're Black or not hired because we're not. Embedded
in the whole EEOC thing, one could debate, is reverse
discrimination!!! There are other folks of varying racial origin who
may not be hired because a Black person HAS to be hired.... what's
up with that?!?!?!Of course, you can countermand all that with the
fact that there's a lot of Whites that have an "attitude"
as well.... there ARE those Whites who believe that Blacks should
still be slaves and such... By the same token, I don't want anything
to do with those folks either....So, when ya boil it all down... how
'bout if we just table all the racial, ethnic and
"background" stuff and realize that to keep bubbling up
those issues is living in the past... now, why would we wanna keep
doing that?!?!?!?! People are people the world-over... we all have
the same "needs", we all experience the same
"feelings", and we all have the same basic gene
structure....Makes me wanna break out in song... "I'd like to
teach the world to sing, in perfect harmony"... and "C'mon
people now, smile upon your brother... "... LOL.


Here is my theory...
if you are going to CHOOSE to not disclose to your partner in hopes
they will be more understanding, then be prepared for the
consequences. You may just gain feelings for that person only to
have them dump you for your being dishonest. Who wins then? Why not
put yourself out there for what it is and let them choose. Then what
you receive back is not putting either person in a position of being
hurt. Honesty IS the best policy. And for the sake of having to
drive by anywhere to find my man.. I don't think so- Next!
I think the problem
here is that a lot of men are very selfish, in fact people in
general are for that matter. However what they fail to realize is
why do things to others that you don't want done to you. And in the
cases of men, things they wouldn't want done to their mother,
sisters, or daughters. They need to be honest with themselves. If
their interest is in men, then so be it. Regardless of what people
may think or feel, God is the only one who can judge them. Also
society has changed soo much that even though we may not like it, we
can accept it. Versus you going crazy trying to be somebody you are
not. Me personally if a man ever asks me what I'm looking for in a
man, I don't even bother to tell them. I tell them to be themselves.
Because if you try to be who I want you to be, I would be bonding
with a fake. It's only a matter of time, before the real you will
come out. At that point time has passed, and I may not like the real
you, and that's time wasted. Therefore if you're yourself from the
beginning, it's up to me to decide early on whether or not you're
who I want to be with. So if a man feels because he's ashamed of the
lifestyle he has chosen, and if it's going to involve someone else
who may get hurt, I simply say daunt be. Folks may not like it, but
in the end they'll respect you. I suggest reading some of E. Lynn
Harris books, and that will help make them more comfortable with
themselves. It's hard for a woman to accept the fact that a man is
cheating on her with another woman, but when he is cheating with
another man, that's an entirely different situation, which causes
much disgust in us. Bottom line is if that's a lifestyle that a
person has chosen, then find ways to become happy with that
lifestyle. Daunt straddle the fence, or have your cake and ice cream
to. Choose one side, and for that matter one person. Life is too
dangerous round here with all of the diseases running wild. Monogamy
is best, and if it's a man that makes another man happy, then they
should be monogamous to one another. Plain and simple.
I personally have not
experienced this but I know that it exists and have heard that many
feel that their persona in business and other aspects needs to be
protected so they don't expose their mixed sexual content.
Closet bisexual men?!?!?! Hmmm...
I'm gonna have to pass on this one... I've not experienced this and
didn't realize there were so many!!!However, I do agree with the
theory that be prepared for the consequences of not being honest...
it's selfish, self-serving, childish, disrespectful, manipulative,
and controlling to not "disclose" the truth to anyone and
then expect honesty and respect in return. It just reeks of Bill
Cosby's joke about the kid getting caught reaching up in the cabinet
to get a cookie when told not to and then gets caught and says
"I was getting the cookie for you"... C'mon - not ALL of
us are still behaving like 6 year olds... some of us HAVE actually
grown up and gotten beyond these antics!!!! Why don't you join
us?!?!!? It's really a lot more fun in "reality-land"...
'cause when you're actually IN "reality-land" you can
actually create your own "fantasy-land"... OOH - what a
concept, huh?!?!?!?Take responsibility and be accountable for your
own behavior and give everyone else the respect to do the same. How
DARE anyone "spring" something like this on anyone after
they've offered their heart and love...?

Yes... more often than
not it means open season for noncommittal relationships that lack
values, intimacy, and trust? Be careful what you wish for... Clean
up what is on your plate first, whether you are the one dating a
married person, or the cheating spouse. Having the best of both
worlds in the long run may also give you the worst of both worlds.
Besides.. Are you a man or a coward? This goes for the
princess/women too!
Me personally, when I
see someone who I find attractive, the next thing I look at is his
ring finger. That's how I'm programmed. Therefore if there is a ring
or signs that a ring was there and has been taken off then I daunt
even bother. And will make it perfectly clear I have no interest in
being involved with a married man. Furthermore, I definitely daunt
listen to the lie anymore that he is unhappily married. I feel if a
man says he's unhappily married, then he needs to make some changes.
He needs to either find happiness in that marriage, or if there is
no way for happiness to be there, then he needs to leave it. There
is no reason whatsoever to get involved with a married man, PERIOD!
Women have to have be aware of the fact, that what goes around,
comes right on back around. Therefore if you're involved with a
married man, what do you think is going to happen when you get
married? Or if you take a man from his wife/woman, what do you think
is going to happen down the road. We also have to realize, if we are
willing to be involved with him, because "he has feelings for
us", or "he cares about us", or "he loves
us", we are selling ourselves short. Because how much love can
he have for you, and he married a woman, who he claimed he love, but
is cheating on her. And we as woman, make it soo easy for them to
get away with this. I once read an article, I believe it was in
Essence which said, it's funny how women will not share the same
underwear, but will share the same man. Ladies wake up! Yes, we get
lonely, yes we want romance, yes we want someone to cuddle with on
those cold winter nights, but if it's a lie is it worth it? Because
if you're sharing a man, you're living a lie. When the time that
really matters come, such as holidays, family reunions, where will
you be? Alone, all depressed because he cant get away. Trust me
those few moments of joy, are not worth it when those special days
come around. And you can try to fool yourself into believing it's
all good, but deep in your heart you know it's not. You know God
made us very emotional and sensitive, so you do care, and daunt want
to be left alone when it matters the most. Oh, and let us not forget
the brothers who are married and don't wear a ring and tell the lie
that they aren't married. That's just trifling.
Sure a wedding ring
means something, on the right finger, on the wrong finger --no it
means zero. But those are individual cases in my opinion. We as
human's are driven by misery, it's sad but true, if you really
really thing about it. We feel a little better --that we have
something better than the next guy. That we make more money. That
are apparel is better ...the whole nine. That's why we dwell on
spouse cheaters instead of folks that are committed and working
through and building in their relationships. One more thing, look at
the news, to look at the news you'd think there was a little war
going on overnight in Atlanta, but shooting, stabbings, spouse
cheaters are what we focus on, you hardly hear about all the good
stuff that happens.
A wedding ring - and
the vows that go along with it, 'should' be a lifelong commitment.
Temptation is a part of life... in other words, there will ALWAYS be
attractive, available women willing to deal with married men (and
vice versa). It is up to the individual that is married to
"just say no"...
Me personally, I do
not see any significance in wearing a wedding ring. I'm a married
brotha who has been married for 14 years to my high school
sweetheart. I'm an artist, poet/rapper/ businessman who travel in a
well diverse group of circles and me wearing a wedding band has
never been a subject of conversation. For all that matters, NO ONE
KNOWS I'M MARRIED BUT MY CLOSE FRIENDS and I chose to keep it that
way. Once women find out your married it changes the course of
conversation and can ruin some personal and business relationships.
Come on, we can't play dumb here, everyone knows wedding bands
attract more women than not wearing one. My attitude is that grown
folks are going to do what they want to, wedding band or not, if
your gonna play, YOUR GONNA PLAY!
Speaking from what I
have observed, I would say no. I am single and have never been
married but I have stretched the truth on occasion and said that I
was married to persuade unsuitable suitors utilizing a ring as a
supposed deterrent. It does not work men still pursue.
I really want to believe that it
does... PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE let me... make be believe this. 'Cause I
have to admit, even when I see a wedding ring - and trust me...
women ALWAYS look (we look to see if there's "tan lines"
where a wedding ring 'ought to be' too!!), I make the naive
assumption that the man is married... and happily married to boot.
I'm thinkin' if they're not happily married, then DO something about
it one way or the other... either learn how to re-create the
feelings that led them to marry or get divorced... but don't
"mess" with someone else's emotions... see response to
question 2. I mean really, certainly at one time or another you
loved this person enough to marry 'em... why would you want to
destroy someone you once loved. I agree with the "clean up your
plate" first before eating off another plate!!!! There's the
"flip-side" of this theory as well... and this is REALLY
sick. I actually had someone tell me that I should start wearing my
wedding ring again (I'm a widow) because it would attract more
men!!!! Talk about SICK THINKING!!! However, it goes along with the
premise of this question... there are soooo many that are so
terrified of commitment, soooo terrified at being honest... and all
that other stuff, that they believe that this "ruse" will
actually serve them well in the long run... oh wait... they're not
even thinking of the long run, now, are they?!?!?! Silly me, there I
go again donning my Pollyanna costume thinking that everyone's pure
and chaste... when everything points to that I should be donning my
Elvira costume instead!!! LOL. Which again, takes me back to my
response to question 2... the whole be responsible and accountable
for your behavior... hmmm... wonder why THAT keeps coming up!!!!!!
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If all you can
receive/offer is superficial, don't be surprised if superficial is
all that you get/offer in the long run. Not to mention a hefty
alimony bill! And women... if you DO catch the cheating spouse, be
forewarned you may have that alimony taken from the mouth that will
be feeding you. If you want to have an adult and meaningful
relationship, start by looking at what you have to offer and then
look at what you will receive back. Then look at your intent for a
relationships. Are they all on the same page? Sometimes the desire
to be part of something, whether it be work, relationships, family,
etc is far greater that the hurt of being alone. Do you know people
fear being alone far more than they fear death? Being alone and
being lonely are TWO different things. Being alone means I am happy
with my life (for the most part) where being lonely brings up the
tendency for codependency in relationships in that we must have
someone in our lives to validate my own worth. Did I mention what
lessons these actions are teaching children? Pretend you are having
a conversation with your daughter regarding some man, or your son
regarding some women; what would YOUR advice be to them?
I believe there is a
shortage of "available" men in Atlanta. Although I'm not
willing to date someone elses man, I understand why many women in
Atlanta do. Take a look at some of the social gatherings here. Ever
notice there are very few couples in attendance, but many groups of
women. Where are all of the men???
It's call lack of
respect for themselves, and for one another. Is being alone really
so bad that a significant number of women are willing to date these
same married men from above? Well? Being alone does have it's
moments of loneliness, but in my opinion not enough to be involved
with a married man. There is no justifiable reason whatsoever to be
involved with someone who is married.
Straight up, women
have more game than dudes. And if you're dealing with women who are
high on the food chain, watch out because they ain't trying to hear
nothing that's not pleasant to them. I personally think their a bit
hypersensitive, ready to jump your ass if they remotely smell
control or to some extent --machoism. It's tough because I'm old
school and I am not changing. Even though, when I was single, I
loved the women that were 'very high on the food chain'. But back to
the question, yea, women are taking on, alot of traits of men, not
always are good traits. Men entering into relationships need,
I-hate-to-say to watch their hearts, chic's are kinda/sorta trying
to make up for past indiscretions committed against them.
No, being alone is not
bad at all. The problem is that many people confuse being 'alone'
with being 'lonely'; an individual can be in a crowded room and be
'lonely'. Time alone is an opportunity to learn about yourself, to
grow as an individual, to learn to LOVE oneself. As far as why some
women are willing to date married men, there are various reasons.
The most prevalent reason I've heard is that married men are viewed
as safe... they don't have to 'commit' to that person. That person
is there when you need a 'piece' and gone otherwise. :-)
A great deal of women
are craving for quality attention. They want to be treated with
respect and wined and dined and from what I have heard married men
if only part time know how to treat women. However, I have never
dated a married man and will not because I hold marriage as a sacred
entity entered into between those individuals and God. I would never
want to plant that ugly seed because I want to be married one day.
What's up with this?!?!? Ooh, this
is an EASY one... after being in the "mid-life" dating
world for about 6 years now, I can usually tell you within 10
minutes of meeting a man, why he's divorced... which solidifies the
theory that "all the good ones are taken"... Know
what?!?!? We want a taste of the good ones too!!!! We just wanna
know what it's like, if even for a little while. Don't get me wrong,
'cause I'll take ya back to the response of question 2 again.. LOLOL...
I'm not saying it's the right thing to do - I'm providing the
"insight"... Another reason is... it's "safe".
So many of us are also so terrified of being "burned"
again - in one way or another - we take the safe route and burn
ourselves before someone else can... so we latch on to a married
man... thereby "burning" ourselves by not being able to
have something we think we want and by protecting ourselves from
being "burned" because he's already committed.. (and
probably should be for doing what he's doing anyway... OOPS - that
question 2 response slipped in here again - didn't it... LOL). Or,
if you're EVEN thinking that this man is going to divorce his wife
for you - you're in serious denial and have just classified yourself
as a "master of delusion"!!! Don't you realize that he
keeps telling you that because he knows how to "play" on
your emotions?!?! Women think men are stupid when it comes to
understanding women - however, if ya really step back and think
about it - they're pretty damn smart... they know EXACTLY how to
keep us "hooked"... of course, it's the very things they
"play on" to keep us hooked that are the very things so
many of us women are lacking... our "emotional" buttons
turn into lack of self-respect, our "compassion" turns
into self-degradation... and so on... Women are the ones who are
moreso stupid than men... men keep behaving this way because we
continue to allow it... hmmm... now, there's a "chin-scratcher"
for ya, huh? And, besides, would you really want a man who divorced
his wife for you?!?!?! What makes you think he wouldn't do it to you
too?!?!?! And do you have that little respect for other women that
you'd allow a man to hurt another woman like that... and then
believe that he'd be your "knight"?!?!?!? WAKE UP AND
SMELL THE COFFEE!!!! And yeah - regarding the "next
generation"... they're all friggin terrified to get
"involved" because they see the "wonderful" job
we're doing with all that!!!! We just keep perpetuating the problem.
Our kids are going into relationships with divorce on their minds
before they even think of getting married. I had one 21 year old put
it to me this way... "Ya get married, ya get divorced, ya live
happily ever after"... It's another fine mess we got us into,
Ollie!!! Let's all stand up and thank ERA and our desire to bring
home the bacon and fry it up in a pan... In theory that all sounded
good... how has it worked for us so far!?!?! While on the business
front, it was certainly a welcome revamping of societal thinking -
however, from a relationship / marriage standpoint - it really
screwed things up... and I would be remiss if I didn't say that it's
mostly our (women's) fault... we want it "both ways"... we
want to bring home the bacon, fry it up in a pan, yet we also want
men to be "men" the way they used to be and we want men to
be "women" from an emotional standpoint... That would all
be well and fine if we didn't "change the rules" on a whim
or based on hormones... We have GOT to learn how to let men be men
again... in many ways - we have totally emasculated them... and then
we have the nerve to engage in "male bashing" on top of it
all... and we wonder what the hell is going on!??!?!?! (You're gonna
have to read between the lines throughout that whole response... it
gets VERY involved!!! LOL)


Out of fear of not
being accepted. When our fear of not being 'part of' is greater than
being able to express who we are. and this question is not solely
for gay men. Each and every person has the same issue until we come
to a place of not taking things personally by living life based on
what others think.
Because they feel
ashamed of the lifestyle they have chosen. The feel embarrassed as
to how their friends and family will react. Their mothers probably
have pressured them into having grandchildren. So they do what they
feel is right in their hearts, but in actually is not making them
happy. I guess it's that invisible life that we have read about in
E. Lynn's books.
Not being a gay man, but a straight
woman, I can only speculate why a gay man would marry only to tell
his wife the truth years later. I think that it's difficult to live
as a societal outcast. I think that sometimes people try to do what
society or their family tells them they should do. They suppress
their authentic selves because they think it's what's right at the
time. But living a lie ain't easy and I imagine that although they
have love for their wives and children, they have to be who they are
at some point. I'm sure it's devastating for families, but quite
liberating for the spirit.
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I don't think there is
an overall lack of good men. I do feel there is only a select few
great men 'for me.' I am unique and special. It will take a very
unique and special man to penetrate this heart.
I too have struggled,
unsuccessfully, to find a good man who can relate to my experiences,
accomplishments and is willing to share good times with. I also do
not carry a banner saying that there are no "good" men.
However, I will say that it is hard to find "good" men that
are "available" and willing to get into a meaningful
relationship.
Women say that,
because after encounter, after encounter, after encounter of Mister
Wrong, they have developed an image that there is a lack of good
men. Or they have accepted the fact that most of the good men are
taking. However in defense of men, I do believe there are some good
men still available, just as there are some good women still
available. A lot of them have encountered the wrong kind of women
themselves. However what makes the situation hard is because we
(myself included) are caught up on looks. Regardless of what the old
folks use to say, which was it's not how a person looks on the
outside, but how they are on the inside. Reality.... If a person is
not attractive to you on the outside, you're not going to waste time
trying to find out how they are on the inside. So with a lot of women
having the same "standards" in guys, as far as looks go,
that makes it hard for one guy who may fit those standards, (
surrounded by 10 women who want him), to become that good men that
we as women want, Therefore we say there is a shortage of. Which
leaves a lot of men who may not be as appealing, (but have a good
heart and know how to treat a woman), still out there alone.
I read that Newsweek
article with Star and Beyonce and rest of them sista's. I don't
believe that for a second, I know to many great cats that are
single. Women, I love em, Lord knows I do. But if were talking about
black women, there are plenty of brothers to tell you truth, women
have really got sprung on rappers, athletes and all that's flossy.
Nothing wrong with wanting a man high on the food chain, but if
sista's would just choose and build with regular brothers, (like
there mothers did) they could have all of that floss, quicker than
most of them think. We'd have a whole different attitude about
what's going on between brother's and sista's Sista's are real picky
and have little or no patience, with what they may perceive is lack
of respect for their position's and or higher learning. I personally
have no problem with it, because I'm the same way, I like the women
who are high on the food chain too.
There are definitely
good men out there... most have already been 'found' by someone
else...lol Seriously, I think that most people have no real idea
what qualities are most important to them. Many people simply go for
looks and/or money. If more of us took the time to figure out the
qualities we would like in a partner (intelligence, sense of humor,
community activism, child-rearing philosophy, financial stability,
etc.), and ranked them in order of importance, then it would be
easier to spot YOUR "good man" when he comes along.
As far as the "no
good Black men" myth goes, I can offer my opinion. Women are
particular. "No good men" means "no good men that I
like". They may be a little too broke. A little too short. Kind
of overweight. He has that funny accent. He's too nice. He's bo-ring....etc.
It's not that easy to find someone that you click with and it's even
more difficult when one limits their options to the kind of men they
are used to. Then we have to consider how we define
"good". That he has a couple of degrees and a high paying
or prestigious position? That he has a fairly stable job and doesn't
cheat? That he spends lots of time with you and the kids? That he
makes sure you don't have to work after you get married? That he may
not have a job, but he can hold an intelligent conversation about
world affairs and foreign films and he rubs your feet and has dinner
started when you get home from work? What is "good" is so
subjective. One woman's trash is another woman's treasure. Maybe we
should have a citywide "bring your ex" party like they did
on Sex and the City!
I normally don't
respond to many emails, but this one couldn't be passed up. In
response to #6 directly and #3 indirectly, one thing that I think
men and women fail to understand, particularly in the African
American community, is that while the numbers may favor women to men
- I've found that the ratio of good eligible men (however you want
to define that) to good eligible women is closer to 1 to 1 than most
believe. It's been my experience that of the ,say, 10 women in a
room - you probably have to weed out 5 crazy, deranged ones, 2
that aren't attractive to you, which leaves you 3 to try to mesh a
lifestyle with - admittedly a hard thing to do. Women don't sit in
the sister circle and talk about the crazy, the stalking, the
impolite - all the things that men are vilified for and therefore, I
think more women think they are more desirable than they really are.
How many times have you met a woman making 6 figures, nice car,
beautiful, fine as hell, well traveled, and intelligent, but still
single? I've met MORE than my fair share and I've told each of them
the same thing and that's that - while I love being their friends -
the treatment that they give me would not fly in a relationship.
Those sisters' resumes are stellar, but unfortunately you don't date
a resume. That's my rant. It's a ton of good brothers out there -
it's just that some of them are wrapped in small height, slim
frames, different hues, different income ranges, and it just doesn't
get the same weight. If you want the question more accurate to what
women are saying in general terms (because there are bad brothers
out there, just like there are bad sisters) - it's that there is an
overall lack of 'good' men who happen to be tall, handsome, well
off, well traveled, strong, yet sensitive, gentle, but still
protective - yada, yada, yada. The definition of good is paramount
to really answer that question.
I hear this all the
time, almost everywhere nevertheless It's a joke. I would like to
consider myself to be a man of your own persuasion - single and
straight - as well. There are definitely quality women out in the
A-T-L, unfortunately it just seems that it takes me a bit longer
than I'd like to find them. I'm almost at the point where I could
care less if I meet single girls anymore and I've all but abandoned
the traditional "channels" to find dates. Are guys and
gals both feeling this mutual frustrating and that explains why we
see so many singles in their early to mid-30s?
It's not that there is
a lack of good guys. There is a lack of good AVAILABLE guys. Now,
guys don't seem to complain about there being too few good girls. I
think the reasoning to this is threefold. First of all, guys don't
seem to be in as much of a rush to find a long-term match. Secondly,
guys don't seem to hold as much of a taboo about dating women their
friends have dated. (I think that is because men can more easily
separate "hooking up" from "dating"). Thirdly,
women seem to be more accommodating than men, and many women will
try to fit a guy's lifestyle. So it seems to men that there ARE a
lot of good matches, mostly because these women change themselves to
be a good match. It's like the car commercial where you see the girl
go through a bunch of different boyfriends (the hippie, the biz
exec, etc., and HER outfit changes to match each boyfriend.) The
solution for women looking for good men? Broaden your social
circles. Enjoy friendships with men before emotionally investing in
them. Don't act so desperate, don't settle, and for goodness sake,
NEVER CHANGE WHO YOU ARE! It simply won't work.
I think because women
encounter the lack of definite quality men more often but I can
concur that there are women that lack substance as well.
See response to question 4... and
thermos!!! Continuing with that response, let's just say that it's a
crying shame... When the women finally divorce the men who are
disguised as Peter Pan, they're all thrown into the "pool of
pickins'". The sad part of all this is that, while women will
typically look at how their behavior contributed to the demise of
their relationship, men are either incapable or unwilling to do
that.... so they don't "learn" from their previous
relationship and continue to go "out there" and recreate
the same crap. For weeks now I've been saying that the stupidity
(OK, that was harsh... let's call it childness) of men is making the
Dr. Laura's, Dr. Phil's, and John Grays of the world disgustingly
rich!!! The people that really NEED to be listening to them are the
very ones that aren't - they're the very ones that think all those
folks are arrogant, belligerent and so-on... The ones that ARE
listening are listening to receive the validation that they're
thinking is not crazy!!! What really scares me is that all these men
have mothers... I HAVE to believe that their mothers did not teach
them to behave the way they do... I have a theory that there's a
"gene" that kicks in with guys when they turn 19... it
doesn't matter WHAT their mother taught them - it all travels south
to their "little heads"... Okay, okay - so that's not
always true - sometimes it's that society doesn't offer up
"education" on how to treat other people - we're so
focused on perpetuating capitalism yet then we tell folks to think
about what would be on their headstones... the old job vs.
relationship quandary!


Communication is an
art! It is a giving and sharing between two people. So many times in
communicating, I have people listening, rather arming themselves
with their next sentence while I am speaking. So are they really
listening to me? I don't think the issue is that we do not know how
to speak to each other. I think we do not no how to adequately
listen. Then we can truly receive what the other person has to share
with us.
Communication is at a
all time low, because too many people feel that once they have a
dispute in a relationship, that's it, time to go. Or they will let
things build up and build up, which eventually results in a blow up.
And a lot of times, it's a case where as one of the parties may have
something or someone, on the backburner, waiting for that perfect
time of explosion to leave. Sort of like the grass is greener on the
other side. Well reality is that it isn't. If people learn how to
communicate more, and I do mean effectively, which means no yelling,
cursing and what have you, things would be soo much better. We have
to realize if we're all adults, and will have difference of opinion
from time to time, that's what makes us individuals. However those
differences have to come with some form of both parties willing to
make changes or bend to make the relationship better. If not, no
relationship will last. The main reason for breakups are financial
and lack of communication. Therefore time needs to be taken to have
time one on one, go to dinner in a nice quiet restaurant and talk,
go to the park, etc. Bottom line, communication is very important to
a healthy relationship. But communication is not to be confused with
nagging either, there is a difference.
All individuals, male
or female, should be asking themselves "What makes me a good
man/woman"? Is it because you possess a good job, good looks
and good self establishment (the typical reasons for being a good
mate)? Hell No! Those are things you are supposed to have in the
first place! A lot of women that I meet are complaining that there
are not enough good men in the world and wonder why they can't find
a "good man". Kebo, most of these women have it going on
in the general sense, but are complete paper boxes! All women
believe they are good women and are usually stubborn in changing
their ways of doing things (why? Because "they are a good women
and do things well already"...go figure). So many women I meet
have been sitting at home complaining with their girls that when
they meet a good man, they don't know how to date or romance the
intellect between two individuals (it goes both ways, but a GOOD
woman will say they have to charm...BS). No character, no culture
("why all these white folks hangin' out here...lets go to
Justin's") and just don't plain think outside of the box. I'm
going to kill the next woman that says their into art and have never
been to the High or know of Faye's galleries... If a woman can't
find a good man, she needs to first look at her self and ask,
"What makes me different from every other female in my
"league"?" In Atlanta, a female having her good job,
a big ass, looks together, house, car and own money doesn't get it
because MOST women in Atlanta have that too. What are you bringing
to the table that you aren't already supposed to have?
Because folks coming
with tha same ol' game. Women ain't hearing nothing new, fella's
ain't bending, nor coming up with much new game. Until this impass
passes fella's are gonna be subsiding off "chickens" if
you know what I mean. And sista's are going to be talking amongst
themselves, which I hate to say, isn't serving them very well,
sista's are even 'slick/greasy' amongst themselves, dogging their
man to their girl, and then their girl moves in on her disgruntle
man. I've seen that a few times. But communication is going to be
the key to all of these questions, women have to lead on this front
because it's just not man's nature to want to be doing a lot of
talking. But if women, I hate to say 'trick us' into it with
compelling conversation about something interesting and not gossip,
and 'I want' conversations we are going to be just find, this just a
short period in time, life is a marathon, not a sprint.
Since we all know that
men and women communicate differently - I think that it boils down
to people taking the time to learn the communication styles of the
opposite sex. There are several good books and many articles written
on the differing communication styles... but few of us take the time
to read these and practice the techniques they impart.
It seems like everyone
wants to date before they develop any sort of friendship. If you
meet a cool guy, you want to DATE the guy before you develop a
friendship with him. Once you date, you emotionally (and in many
cases, physically) attach to someone you really don't know that
well. We all seem to be so quick to be accommodating and put forth
the image of the ideal mate to win over someone we hardly know. No
one seems to be themselves, and these relationships have a hard time
lasting in the age when divorces are the norm. Once we get used to
having a relationship, we don't want to communicate & let our
guard down, under the fear of losing them. But a relationship can
not survive like this. TV is riddled with shows that are based on
this -- forget get-to-know-you conversation, they skip right to
get-to-marry-you (Bachelor, Joe Millionaire, etc. etc.). Why not
take a more deliberate route and try to be friends with people
first? Well, the answer is simple. Fear of competition. Part of this
is because of the competition between women here in Atlanta, even
among friends, for a "good guy" as they're referred to.
Once a female finds a guy that is somewhat interesting, they are
sure to mark this guy as "hands off/off limits". It seems
like everyone is playing Musical Chairs, and with the fear of being
left without a chair, people will match themselves up with anything
available. By jumping on a guy we hardly know, we then make it
impossible, or very awkward, for them to date any of our friends,
who they might have been better suited for in the first place. So
then, for us single girls, it seems like there are NO available guys
because all the good ones have probably dated, or at least hooked up
with, someone we're friends with. To add insult to injury, these are
likely the guys you have to choose from since they run in the same
circles.
I think that we often
don't truly listen to each other and we make various assumptions,
often relying on past experiences as indicators as to how we
evaluate others.
Of course, in the end, it all boils
down to communication... or the lack thereof. People say the money
is the root of all evil... I adamantly disagree... communication
(lack thereof) is the root of all evil... we "expect"
without communicating what we expect... we "need" without
communicating our needs, we "project" our own beliefs,
perceptions, and experiences without understanding those of our
partners'... and so on and so on... and then, more often than not -
if we do attempt to communicate any of things, since the other
person is doing the same thing - and / or toss in inability to be
honest with ourselves, the quickness with which 'defense mechanisms'
pop up... and what we have, friends... is one GREAT BIG TANGLED
MESS... Something that men haven't realized is that women "put
up" with much more of men's "quirky" behaviors than
men give us credit for. Women are very good at taking responsibility
for men's behaviors for many, many reasons... (many of which are
very subliminal)... however, women will attempt to keep a
relationship together until they just can't stand it anymore... all
the while they've been trying to "communicate" with their
partner, their partner was viewing them as a nag and a bitch... to
the point where when the woman has finally had enough and leave, the
man is left standing there, scratching his balls, wondering
"what happened"? Then, in order to keep the mask of denial
firmly planted to his face, he continues to believe that she was a
nag and bitch without taking even one second to "own up"
(oops - there's that being responsible and accountable again...) to
how their own behaviors contributed to the woman being a nag and a
bitch... We should all pull our copies of Men are from Mars, Women
are from Venus down from the shelf and read it backwards... Women
are from Mars, Men are from Venus... 'cause when you boil it all
down to the least common denominator -we ALL want the same EXACT
things... we all want to be loved, we all want to be acknowledged
for who we are - warts and all, we all want to be appreciated, we
all have the same feelings, and so on and so on... we just haven't
accepted nor been "open" to believing that we each have
varying ways of going about "attracting",
"receiving" or "giving" those things... And how
simple it could all be if we all just learned to behave and act from
our hearts and not from our heads... I've seen the biggest
"creeps" be totally AWESOME when they're acting and
talking from their hearts... with LOVE... if we could all just take
responsibility for ourselves and know our own selves well enough
instead of wanting someone else to understand us for us... then
maybe our "expectations" wouldn't leave us so friggin'
disappointed... Maybe, must maybe, we could all be just like
"Bogey and Bacall"... start looking at "chick
flick" movies as training classes for having the fairy tale...
"just like the movies" can be "just like real
life"... if we let it... !!!!!
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